The conversation is in a shoot-the-breeze phase. You know the way these things turn when there is a lull between one job and the next.

Skryne Gallops is serene. Tom Gibney has taken me along for the ride – figuratively one hastens to add. Kieren Buckley, who is a regular at Capranny Stud along with Darragh O’Keeffe and Oakley Brown, is beaming from ear to ear after popping a few obstacles on Mr Saxobeat.