WE still don’t know how good Honeysuckle is, and we don’t know how good Envoi Allen can be. We don’t know where the ceilings to their respective abilities lie. You often don’t find out how good a horse is until he or she has been beaten, and that is something that hasn’t happened with either of these yet.

They both had their most difficult assignments at Fairyhouse on Sunday, and they both put up career-bests in winning impressively. Honeysuckle was tackling a Grade 1 contest in open competition for the first time, and the Henry de Bromhead-trained mare won doing handsprings under Rachael Blackmore.